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Interview with Niklas Sundin of Dark Tranquillity
By Sam Thomas - April 2010
 
Dark Tranquillity, originators (or at least co-originators) of the Gothenburg sound, and still going strong have just produced a new album, “We are the Void”. I’ve been an admirer of their great music and (probably) the best lyrics in the business for many years now, so it was a personal treat when L4M caught up with guitarist Niklas Sundin somewhere on tour in the US, and asked him a few questions about the new album, touring and poker...

You recently celebrated 20 years as a band. What’s the secret of your longevity?

Lots of yoghurt, long nature walks and a hearty cocktail of colourful pills every morning.

How do you feel the band has evolved over that period of time?
We've had our different phases I guess, starting out with basic thrash/death that was pretty basic due to our musical limitations at the time. From that one, we spent a few years adding complexity to the songs before going to something completely different with "Projector". After that, it has mostly been about refining the songwriting skills.

Gothenburg sound: Do you love it or hate it when you are described in that way? And why?
I used to dislike it a lot, but these days I don't care that much, and I've understood that it's a tag we're stuck with for the rest of our career. It's not a negative thing in itself, and I guess most bands would have been happy for having something like that associated with the band, but to me it's just another term coined by lazy journalism.
 

 
We are the Void is a great album, very catchy, very much in keeping with your more recent back catalogue. How would you describe it?
It's hard to analyze your own music, and it's usually down to individual impressions. I actually think that the album as a whole is considerably less catchy than "Fiction" or "Character" and that it's pretty different than those albums, but I've seen that a lot of people think otherwise. To me, "We are the void" is darker and more diverse.

I particularly love the “The Fatalist” – it’s got such perfect timing, where the vocals kick in and then disappear again. What’s your favourite track and why?

Thanks! Not sure about fave songs; it usually takes a while before one can have any idea of that. "The fatalist" turned out pretty well, but I'm partial towards "Arkhangelsk" and "Iridium" at the moment.

Do the rest of the band have the same favourite, or do you all like different tracks?
We have very different tastes, so I'm sure that you'd get a different reply from each of us. We can agree on the stuff that everyone thinks is "pretty good", but if one absolutely loves a song/riff, the chances are high that someone else in the band doesn't like it at all.

And which track from the new album do you most look forward to playing live?
I think "Iridium" will be a big challenge to play live, but if we actually pull it off, it'll be massive. Otherwise, "Dream Oblivion" is already proving itself to be a really good live song.

How does the creative process work? When do you decide to go into the studio – do you plan first, or just go in and see what happens?
We always have the material 100% finished when entering the studio. All the creative work is finished beforehand during rehearsals, so we're not one of those bands that likes to improvise or "see what happens" in the studio. An album recording means enough stress and pressure anyway, and we want to have all the music completed beforehand so that we can focus on the actual playing. We spend a lot of time in the rehearsal room trying different riffs out and arranging them into proper songs.

Are you all equally involved in the creative process, or is there a definite leader?
Everyone contributes to some degree and is contributing to the arrangements, but I'd say that Martin Henriksson is the main guy and the musical engine.

You’ve actually had a line-up change for the first time in quite a while for this album, bringing in Daniel Antonsson on bass. How did that come about, and how is it having someone else in the band after so long? How does it work with him being the “new boy”, but it being his studio that you’re recording the drums in? Does that make things a bit awkward?
Awkward? Why is that? No offence, but I seriously can't see how that would be weird. It's great that we're able to record in two studios owned by band members; we have more time and less pressure. As for the bassist change itself, our previous four stringer Michael Nicklasson simple grew tired of the touring life, and we all decided that it'd be best for all parties if we found someone else for the job.
 

 
It’s been a while since you’ve released any new material (2007 in fact). Why was that, and what have you been doing in the meantime as a band?
We've never been the fastest of songwriters, and the touring cycle for "Fiction" was far more extensive than on past albums, so most of the time was spent on live shows and just having our regular lives at home. The song writing process for "We are the Void" started in late 2008 and took about a year. We always say that we should try to start working on new music a bit more quickly after each album, but it tends to take its time nevertheless.

Does it get more difficult to release an album after a certain period of time?

Maybe you tend to set your goals higher and higher for ever album, but on the whole there's no huge difference. Every recording has a certain degree of pressure and stress and self doubt. If anything, the actual recording process gets easier the more experience you have. Also, the advance in recording technology has helped a bit as well.

What’s it like touring with people that you’ve known for so long? (After all, you’ve been together for longer than most marriages...)
It's good of course. On this tour we have our own bus with just us and our crew, which is awesome. Nothing against sharing with other bands, but you tend to get very edgy and antisocial after having lived in what's essentially a submarine on wheels for a few weeks, and then it's great to be surrounded by people you know very well.

Do you ever play poker with the guys on tour? Or would that be too risky, given that Martin Henriksson and Martin Brändström are quite keen players?
Ha ha, no, I'm not really a gambler and never really got into playing cards at all. I make it a point of playing one game of roulette - betting on black of course - every time we're in Las Vegas, but that's how far I'd go. But the Martins take every chance of visiting casinos on tour, sometimes with great results, sometimes not.

How do you manage to balance the requirements of being in a band with running your graphic design business?
It's very flexible since I'm a freelancer and can do exactly what I want with my time. I'm actually having a break from the design activities right now because of the hectic band schedule, but usually I bring the laptop on the road I can manage to get some work there if needed.

Not to mention your “other” band, Laethora. Is it a very different experience to play in a melodic metal band such as Dark Tranquillity, and then switch to violent death/grind?
It's very different, but that's the whole point of having a side project. D.T. is more structured whereas Laethora is more chaotic and intense, and I enjoy playing both styles. The new Laethora album will be released in early May, and I'm very much looking forward to it.

Many thanks for your time. Is there anything else you’d like to add?
Thanks for the interview!

Dark Tranquillity links:
www.darktranquillity.com
www.myspace.com/dtofficial
www.youtube.com/dtofficial